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Ben Johnston & Scott Johnston Episode 22

What happens when the sky lights up with electricity and the ground starts to smoke? Join us as we tackle the ominous relationship between lightning storms and forest fires, focusing on a recent tempest in Eugene that had everyone on edge. Reflecting on past fire seasons in California, we share personal stories that paint a haunting picture of life under smoke-choked skies and eerie daylight. We wrestle with the big questions, like how much we understand about the forces of nature, and indulge in a little nostalgia, recalling the catchy Comedy Central Presents jingle from the mid-2000s.

From comedy rooms to concert stages, Donald Glover has done it all before hitting 40. His journey from college writer on "30 Rock" to the multifaceted artist known as Childish Gambino is nothing short of inspiring. We look at the creative magic that happens behind the scenes in writers' rooms like "The Daily Show" and admire Glover's bold moves in the music and film realms, including dropping a soundtrack before its movie. Artists like Jack White get a nod as we contemplate musical experiments, such as adding a fiddle to the ensemble, echoing Glover's knack for collaboration.

Our musical musings take us down memory lane where summer vacations were scored by Sony portable CD players and bands like Jimmy Eat World and No Doubt. There's a certain charm to discovering music through family and neighbors, whether it's through a serendipitous record collection or those iconic "Now That's What I Call Music" compilations. We talk about playlist strategies for navigating the vast musical landscape today, and the charm of vinyl's physical allure in a digital age. A light-hearted tale of a Santa Cruz surfing misadventure rounds out our episode, reminding us of the joy in embracing new experiences, no matter how unexpected they might be.

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Ben:

there was a thunderstorm here last night. Really, apparently eugene got hit super, super hard. So tune back in in a couple of weeks and see how the forest fires are.

Scott:

Tune back in in a couple of weeks and see how the forest fires are why it's going to make them less.

Ben:

No, because there was so much lightning. So I mean, we've had a normally dry summer, I see, and, um, when you get a thousand lightning strikes, you know, in a small area they hit trees or power lines and things. That's how a lot of fires start. Well, I mean, maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's not as big of a deal as I think it is to the day, which is when the it started raining, started lightening here last night at like 10 pm, and on August 17th, 2020 is when I was on the farm in California and they just started pouring rain and and it hadn't rained since I don't know probably May. And we were running around on Sunday, on our day off, to try and make sure everything was battened down, and a couple of weeks later, the AQI was through the roof because there was just a million acres burning in California, right next to us. We'll see if it's a similar thing here.

Scott:

You had to wear headlamps to pick vegetables at noon.

Ben:

Yeah because the smoke had consumed us.

Scott:

That's what I always heard growing up.

Ben:

I didn't know I'd left before that was the case.

Scott:

That's what I always heard growing up. I left before that was the case. I always thought it was lightning that would start the fire, or a camper who didn't put out their their campfire Right. I think the most common thing is California is um wind striking trees against electrical Um. Oh really yeah. Striking trees against electrical? Um, oh really yeah. And you know when, whenever they fall, fall behind in their tree trimming, they can light a fire.

Ben:

They like rub up against the transformer or something yeah, it's electricity and there's sparks to be created. Yeah, right, and you get dried, leaves out there. Yeah, interesting.

Scott:

I would like to see that chart of the percentage of you know causes of fire. Starts for a burned acre.

Ben:

I wonder if anyone they must do that research. It seems like a pretty important place for our tax dollars to be going, like oh, how do these giant forest fires actually start? That's good information.

Scott:

Now that we've thought of the question, there probably is that graph out there, not that you can find it with Google, but it's probably out there.

Ben:

A lot of life is just knowing which questions to ask and and what's? What's the?

Scott:

rest of life, oh yeah it sounds good that's like one of those living out the question tomorrow is being too quick to an answer tomorrow is another day tomorrow is another day.

Ben:

It is, as some might say, although, and some have said if you're Buddha, you might say nay because, really, tomorrow is nothing more than just a.

Ben:

Say nay Because really tomorrow is nothing more than just a thing you say Tomorrow is more of now.

Ben:

Tomorrow is more of now.

Ben:

Yeah.

Ben:

Tomorrow is another day. Yeah, Welcome to the podcast everybody. Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun, did you ever? Watch Comedy Central Presents in like the mid-2000s.

Scott:

No.

Ben:

Or is it always a theme song Same, always the same?

Ben:

Dun-dun is always a theme song. Same, always the same. Everybody, please welcome Donald Glover. Everybody, please welcome Anthony Jeselnik. Donald Glover does stand-up. Oh yeah.

Scott:

Yeah, yeah, am does everything. Yeah, am I confusing?

Ben:

You're probably not confusing. This is Kid Walsh's name, this is Kid Gambino, kiddy Gambino, everybody, childish Gambino, a childish. No, donald glover is amazing in that he seemingly has lived like four lifetimes as an entertainment meister and you know, before he 40. Yeah, he was. I mean, he was writing, it, was it? I think it was 30 rock. He was writing for 30 rock while he was still in college oh, that's right.

Scott:

He was right, I remember.

Ben:

Oh, that's right, he was a writer. I remember learning about that and going to the dining hall and eating dinner with my friends and reading about Donald Glover and just imagining like whoa, that's like the equivalent of me writing for some big, famous television show while going to get ice cream with my friends.

Scott:

I mean, it's sort of a when the world of comedy. It's sort of like a writer's writer If you get the job run by, if you get the job on the show run by a former head writer of SNL I think she was a head writer.

Ben:

Faye, tina Faye.

Scott:

Tina Faye, or we think, or yeah. Tina Faye yes.

Ben:

Yeah, amy Poehler might've been writing for them too. I don't know.

Scott:

No, I think Tina Faye was a head writer.

Ben:

Yeah, yeah, well, I think.

Scott:

Tina Fey was the head writer. Yeah, yeah, well, that's a concept. How do you? How do you? Well, I've heard that in writers' rooms it's the talk comes first Just chilling, just shooting the shit. The comedy is made verbally, not um not with conceptually or not like not yeah, not by typing paper, right you're, you're interacting with people.

Ben:

Yeah, that's what I've heard too, that when you're in the writing, really how people come up with jokes, like on the daily show. I've heard that their process is right. They have a meeting in the morning and all the writers are just talking and they're just like looking at the stories of the day and then they're literally just like doing improv together, making jokes about the thing, and then they, they just continue with bits you know, they make, they go into character and then the way I think trevor noah or some writer on the on trevor noah said, when you get burstiness going, that's when your best jokes come out. It's just and there's no filter whatsoever.

Ben:

People are just and 50 of the things are just so dumb that people just like cringe because it's just like, oh my God, man. And then half of them are like oh yeah. And then you know, 10% of them are just like boom. That's the one.

Scott:

Yeah, I like the bits where they go back over rejected jokes.

Ben:

Those are often hilarious. Yeah, true, yeah yeah, yeah, uh, yeah no yeah, but that's what I remember hearing about donald glover on that, and then, I found out.

Ben:

I can't remember, yeah, I found out that he was childish Gambino and I was like, oh my god, he also does that and I thought he was like he was so fun, he was one of my favorite comedians. And then I found out that and then he became one of my favorite musicians too, and then I saw Atlanta and I was like, okay, now he's one of my favorite directors and like screenwriters, like what, who is this guy? Uh, you know, just found out what he.

Scott:

I don't know, I haven't, I haven't researched who he is other than he's just always working is really what it is now.

Ben:

he's making movies apparently. He just came out with his last album as childish cambino, which is a uh soundtrack for a movie, but he came out with the soundtrack before the movie, so he's letting people listen to the album as an album, but also knowing that there's going to be a movie partnered with it, and so they're going to be watching the movie having known all of the original music beforehand. So that's going to be an interesting you like to put things on their head, which is, yeah, something that good artists do Right all the different ways and it and it also seems to come from a comedic mind yeah not only what would be funny, but what would be yeah kind of startled people oh let's put the soundtrack first Ha ha, yeah, right, no, let's really, let's do it.

Ben:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the comedic mind gets him.

Scott:

It's like oh, I'm going to be the uh uh uh music. Well, childish Gambino is what an alter ego. Uh, well, childish Gambino is what an alter ego. Uh, instagram handle what, what is it?

Ben:

I guess it's an alter ego stage name, I don't know Musician uh band name. Yeah, I don't really know.

Scott:

Well it's, it's a one man band name. Yeah, yeah exactly yeah, when a musician takes on the name like like skinny pete, one man band name exactly yep, yep, then you can.

Ben:

It's up to you to decide who you want to tour with. Which musicians are vibing with you in any given moment. Yes, yeah, usually, like when jack white tours, he's usually at different folks, but there's this one woman that does strings, I think she spends a lot of time on the electric fiddle and her him and her, like I think play together kind of all the time I, I need a fiddle player uh, my house, my hand plays violin, does she?

Scott:

she can figure and fiddle out, yeah ask her, ask her if she's ever, uh, listened to desert skies by the marshall tucker band I'll, uh, I'll pencil that in yeah, um sweet, we'll do.

Scott:

I find in the combos I'm playing in, I gravitate towards stuff where I would have impressed myself if I could have played that when I first heard it at that age, or no. No, I mean, you know, I just heard things in in college. Right, that's like, oh, it's so cool and I'll never practice more than um was even a concept for me.

Ben:

Right that you got a unique to make it a hobby. You know a?

Ben:

self-motivated hobby yeah, self-motivated activity, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whether it's a hobby or not yeah yeah, yeah, that's funny because, yeah, I've been thinking about playing music a lot more recently and went to this uh show this past wednesday night which is usually when they do comedy nights um, at the local pub. Except they had a musician coming. I think he grew up in Seattle, I believe, but he's currently living in New Orleans. In the last couple of years he's been playing at this little pub on Whidbey Island because he has a couple of close friends on the island, and when they were playing you know there are people that are my age or a little bit younger, maybe, or maybe a little bit older, and just I. I was in a low spot mentally that night, but the thing that was going through my mind the most was like man, they just come out here, they just play music together. Half of the people in the audience are their friends and they're like oh come on up everybody, like let's play, let's play a song together.

Ben:

You know you'll, you'll finish me out with like background vocals and like let's just, let's just hang out, and it's like they make this performance into a party and I just the whole time I just felt like not a minute went by where I wasn't having the thought like man, I wish I could have that much fun. Oh man, I wish I could play music like that. And just damn, and I mean, given they're incredible musicians and they're like going for it and it's like their, their lives kind of revolve around it, but like you don't need to be a virtuosic musician in order to have fun I'm proof of that yeah, you're having fun, you're going to parties, playing music and chilling out with people, meeting new people and, just yeah, you're enjoying yourself.

Ben:

It's a self-motivated hobby that is also bringing you closer into community and like inviting you into you know the moment in a really special way but it's another way of looking at it.

Scott:

So is the bar is lower than you might think yeah, exactly yeah to enter into playing with other people.

Ben:

So is the bar is lower than you might think?

Scott:

Yeah, exactly To enter into playing with other people. Once I did it it's like, okay, this is not as hard as I thought it would be, and it's kind of. Then you get like joining a troop in the army. You know, you get motivated just based on like these are my comrades and I'm going to do my part. I don't want to, you know, be embarrassed in front of them, I guess. Or not embarrassed, that's not the word. I don't want to let them down.

Scott:

Go home and practice more Pardon, oh yeah, yeah, go home and practice.

Ben:

For me. I'm so new that when I make a mistake or something, I think that practice for me is not being so hard on myself. It's like oh, I made a mistake, ah, mistake, ah, you know just and then, and then letting it go immediately and like because I mean I've only ever actually played with one other person and whenever a mistake happens it's just like laughing and it's a lot easier for me to actually find my grounding again after that mistake than I ever thought possible.

Ben:

But now that I've actually done it, that's a good it was like oh, all you have to do is like stop for a second, find the beat again, like, okay, back on or and then, oh, then I just start strumming again on the E string or something, and then, and something so simple can be so satisfying, which is just the fact that you're engaging with someone else making cool, beautiful sounds, right, yeah?

Scott:

It's just so fun Goofing up, and recovering is more important than never goofing up Big time. Yeah, and also we have to insert Victor Wooten here, in that there are no wrong notes, or maybe some of them feel like you should go to the one over, but that's all you do.

Ben:

Well, no wrong notes in the sense that they're all kind of information.

Scott:

Right, and some of them are just on their way to a note on the scale, and some are.

Ben:

Yeah, it means you're always just at most what? Two or three steps away.

Scott:

One. If you look at the guitar, if you're going to play a perfect major scale, there's no two notes in a row that you skip right the places that you don't want to play are far less than the places you want to play yeah right.

Ben:

Right, if you really don't know what you're doing, it can seem really awkward and hard. Right? Because if you have no idea, then that means every other note is a wrong note or a quote-unquote wrong note. And the fact that half of them are not quite mellifluous means that it sounds like every note is wrong, but in fact it's like no like, no actually most of those were right on. You just practice, you know, dropping or figuring out which ones actually two thirds.

Scott:

Two thirds are in the scale and one third aren't, so there you go notes are in the scale and four aren't in the scale, or that's not right. Think of a piano. You got five black keys, so you got five black keys. So you got five black keys and eight white keys.

Ben:

Yeah, do you remember what you listened to most when your children were growing up? Like what do you? What are?

Scott:

what is your conception of what you were exposing me and Adam and Peter to? Well, the biggest? It started with playing Nirvana and that aboriginal music thing. I forget what it's called for, peter.

Ben:

Nomad.

Scott:

Nomad yeah.

Ben:

Really really did you pick that out?

Scott:

yeah, those are things I took along when we went to seattle.

Ben:

And, uh, peter was a year old hey, for some reason I thought mom just picked that up randomly at like the stanford gift shop no, I actually probably bought them in on capitol hill and in seattle.

Scott:

Yeah, I think it was music. I got there and I had this little funny sony portable cd player. Um, wow, and since. I remember I made a point whenever we'd go on summer vacations to buy a couple new cds to play. So I remember jimmy world and I remember, um yep, it was funny.

Ben:

We were just talking about this question this morning. I asked what did your parents listen to growing up? And hannah, my housemate, said jimmy world, my dad too. I remember Jimmy New World my dad too. I remember that, yeah.

Scott:

No.

Ben:

Doubt. Oh yeah, that's true, yeah.

Scott:

And that Narls Barkley. I remember getting that one time.

Ben:

I remember yeah, you make me crazy. You make me crazy, pass me.

Scott:

Then the next thing I remember is more like Arden Park Roots.

Ben:

Yeah, yeah, that was when Peter started playing reggae.

Scott:

The reggae that I liked. I guess yeah, and I'm sure there are other details. There must be. Those are only three things out of 20 years yeah, I remember.

Ben:

I remember it being like a pretty at least my memory of it is like it's a pretty small catalog that I went out of my way to expose you to yeah, yeah, and I didn't never, really, I never even realized that you were going out of your way to expose me to these.

Ben:

Well, I thought these are just these are the cds that are in the car and that's's just. I don't know if I don't know how they showed up here. I just, it's just. This is the van and these are CDs in the van. And the Camry has the classical music station and Nomad. Mom really loved Nomad, so I just always assumed it was her and so I just came to associate her with the jijiru and rain stick yeah, another big one was the um guitar here.

Scott:

Guitar hero, what was it called? What was the video game? Guitar hero, yeah, so like when you got a first, got your first ipod, you loaded it up with like everything on Guitar Hero soundtrack, like yeah, yeah.

Ben:

What's the?

Scott:

one song that goes really fast.

Ben:

Through the Fire and Flames. Yeah.

Ben:

On a cold winter morning, in the time before the light, dark steps. Yep, yep, yep, that's good.

Scott:

We got a whole, I got a whole crate of CDs. I must have played them.

Ben:

Yeah, and then what you would like listen to when you're. You know, cooking dinner on your laptop was always a huge diversity.

Scott:

Yeah, I'd listen, I remember there being a lot of Elvis yeah. Right Late stage, a riot girl. Yeah, exactly, Um power punk. Uh uh, arc welder elvis costello elvis costello. Yeah, well, I probably imposed arc welder on you maybe doesn't ring a bell maybe you did.

Ben:

I know we listen to the cds every once in a while, but I don't think yeah, I don't think you ever got me and peter to be like, yeah, put that on, put that on, whereas I know that there are plenty of other songs, just like play, play, the. You know the song about. You know the this being the best day ever. Or, like you know, never get about you know this being the best day ever.

Ben:

Or, like you know, never getting down, you know or like sunshine in a bag oh yeah, I remember it being like put sunshine on a bag. I want to listen to that one yeah, we didn't have that album.

Scott:

We didn't have that album, though, we didn't have that.

Ben:

CD it was on. Now, that's what I Call Music, or something.

Scott:

Oh, yeah, okay, there was that we did a couple years of. Now that's what I Call Music.

Ben:

It's probably where the no Doubt came from.

Scott:

Early Britney Yep.

Ben:

Yeah, which was important because now I can connect with other people about it. Yeah. There's all the pop music from when I was growing up that I'm actually aware of Right Walking in the sunshine.

Scott:

Didn't listen to much hip hop at all.

Ben:

No, but we did Within the things that go through.

Ben:

I think you were trusting that we would have stumbled upon it ourselves outcast, you know there were.

Scott:

There are some songs that like got you know, across the board radio play um what about your parents?

Ben:

what did they play? Did they try to indoctrinate you with anything?

Scott:

it's like soundtracks um, um pink panther, which was, uh, what was that guy's name? I want to say mancini, but that I'm not sure that's right.

Ben:

And uh, sound of music, and were they intentional about that, or is that just what they listened to?

Scott:

well, they got a hi-fi, you know with a record player and, uh, you know, stereo system, so you should get some records. So they just had a few like soundtracks and classical thing like Scheherazade, which is Mussorgsky or I don't know, russian guy Scheherazade. But the biggest dose was the neighbor girl who was, you know, maybe four years older or something, or I don't know how many years older. But when she got done with high school she said I'm and this must have been in 1972 or something said I'm done with all this collection of records.

Ben:

I'm done collecting records take them and yeah gave away a good year to get some a bunch of right 1972 she gave away her last like four years of records. Such a weird year to get rid of your records.

Ben:

Well, maybe she just got rid of the ones she didn't like like maybe she, maybe she kept all her beatles and got rid of I guess what I'm streaming on, what I do on my iphone, is I have a playlist called non-downloaded albums and every time anyone ever recommends an album, says like you should check that out or I find something that I think might be interesting, I just add the whole album to that playlist and then a lot of the times I'll be listening to that playlist, which has like 8 000 songs on it, and then I'll listen to the song. I'm like what?

Ben:

I don't.

Ben:

this is not, no, I I'm not enjoying this in the least. It's not even interesting. It's just what is it? And then I like investigate further and I listen to other songs on the album and a lot of the time I'm just like I am removing this. This is so. I can't really imagine what it would be like to like buy a record at the record store and then now you have it sitting around your house, whereas for me it's just compressed into my phone. So it's a lot, a lot more straightforward. So I get it A lot more straightforward. So I get it. I get it. I could see that. Just keep the ones you like, and my threshold for being able to keep an album on my iPhone is very different than it would be to keep the hard copy.

Scott:

The wax version. My wax Cousin, tom, gave me the first Chicago album on a cassette tape, which I guess made it. Statue of Limitations is done, I think.

Ben:

Explain.

Scott:

Well, that was like Statue of Limitations. Well, that was like that was like in the 60s or early 70s when that happened. So the crime of copying the cassette to copy your album.

Ben:

Oh, so I see, so it was a bootleg yeah, it wasn't a printed cassette.

Scott:

It wasn't a product that anyone bought. It was taped off of someone else's got it. Okay, that was the thing, though people taped a lot of stuff the chicago soundtrack 25 or 64, not to be confused with.

Ben:

Boston, yeah, yeah well, this episode is brought to you by wax, not to be confused with cassette tapes brought to you by wax. I heard someone use the term wax. I think they said wax. I think I don't think it was rubber because like rubber is the colloquial. Originally they were wax, cylinders wax. I think I don't think it was rubber because like rubber is the colloquial.

Scott:

No, I think it, originally they were, they were wax cylinders. So in uh edison's uh productizing of recording, it was originally wax cylinders that they recorded on and then you can play back from instead of a big disc yeah, yeah, it's like a, like a paper, the cylinder in a paper towel. You know the roll.

Ben:

Yeah.

Scott:

That'd be a wax thing and then actually the same device could play it and record it. It's kind of the dog sitting next to the record player with the big horn coming up RCA's logo. So when you're recording you would speak into the thing and that would vibrate the needle and then when you play it back it would vibrate the needle.

Ben:

The same way Didn't require electronics, you can just have something so darn complicated that you can't go backwards like that. The manufacturing and the use of the products now are very separate. Oh boy, wow, that ticked my brain is that true I don't know it's, it's just whether it's input or output, right yeah, but I feel like this the, the, the, the design of the thing is just so much more simple and so simple that you can record and then play back on the same thing. Just, I don't know.

Ben:

Anyway, it seemed like I'm smoking a lot of weed when I say like, well, if you go back far enough, you know technology did I don't know. It just seems so much more circular to me. You know, it's like when they first started coming out with cars, you could. You could figure out how to like fix your car with just like shit lying around your house. And now it's to the point where it's like not even someone that has spent 10 years learning how cars work can fix their BMW anymore, because it's just become so specialized.

Scott:

Yes or it's all just thrown out the window, so we should all go back and buy wax cylinders.

Ben:

I'm not saying we should do anything.

Ben:

I'm just saying, that's how it seems things are going okay and I mean, yeah, there's a different debate on what people's subjective experience of like do you want to drive in a spaceship, or do you want to drive in a car that breaks, or I don't? I don't know a car that breaks. I don't know A car that doesn't necessarily break down more often but is clunky. I don't know. That's a real joke. This episode is brought to you by wax Because it's better. Yeah, let's go back in time, everyone.

Ben:

Let's go back.

Ben:

And it's not rubbers, those are condoms. But I remember I watched a video about Jack White and his production company once and I remember seeing how they like were, uh, manufacturing the vinyl. And they like, would it was like this rubber or waxy vinyl, I guess, would ooze out onto this thing and then this, this big thing, it would like come down and compress it and then it would become this disc. Sure, I'm misremembering it.

Scott:

It was a long time, no, that's, I'm sure they mass produce it in like a printing way. By you know I mean it's recorded. By you know it takes the time of the whole record. But if they had to take the length of the whole record to make a new vinyl record, I don't. I'm sure that's not the way it is Right.

Ben:

Good yeah, yeah.

Ben:

I don't know there's. You know, there's something kind of magical about being able to record something and then just having it so analog, just the sound waves and the hardware working the magic instead of it just being picked up by ones and zeros. It's a big hot topic out there, a debate whether what we're missing when we continue to go full digital ends up becoming a religious conversation, and religious not in the sense of institution, but religious in the sense of spiritual and values. What really is important for human life? Wax, wax. This episode is actually not brought to you by any of that kind of wax. It's brought to you by sex wax. You know, if you live on, if you live in the Bay Area on South and there's a car parked on the street, you always see that little thing floating in people's rearview mirrors. It just says sex wax for a surfboard.

Scott:

And you've got to explain what sex wax is used for.

Ben:

I don't actually know, I just see it all the time.

Scott:

It's for waxing your surfboard. It's for waxing your surfboard.

Ben:

It's for waxing your surfboard. They probably make it for skis and other stuff, but it's to make the surfboard extra sticky so you get more grip right. So when you're surfing.

Scott:

I don't know.

Ben:

Yeah, okay, it depends. I really want to go surfing. I was just talking about I took a dip in the ocean today with friends and about I took a dip in the ocean today with friends and I really want, you really want to go surfing, want to find out a way to do it, but there's only one. There's only like one actual break on the island and there are rocks everywhere. But, yeah, still haven't had been surfing once. But you tried, though.

Ben:

You tried to get me and my brothers out we did yeah, we I think we went to santa cruz or somewhere once and like you're like we're gonna take this weekend trip, and we went down. We didn't even look at the ocean, but you just said we went into this surf shop and you said you're gonna rent a few surfboards. And then the owner of the surf you know just this older dude with long beachy, wavy hair, he's, you know, pretty rough around the edges, but definitely cool, nice guy, but also like pretty gritty, and he's just like you asked we're gonna rent a few surfboards. And he says why? I think that comes out of his mouth and you're like well, I have my children here.

Scott:

Go try it.

Ben:

The ocean. You know it's Santa Cruz. We're going to go surfing. No, it's completely dead out there. I'm not going to rent you any surfboards, maybe a boogie board. No, it's probably not worth it either, and so we, you know, did something else with our day. But I was actually kind of stoked because I'm like it sounded really scary to me. But you know, I wish I did more scary things.

Scott:

We did boogie boards a few times.

Ben:

Yeah, we did. Yeah, good time, yeah Well, any last words yeah. So I don't actually use sex wax, but go out there and buy some. Everyone Don't use it for sex. Use water-based lubricants, please, all right, that's our show. Everyone Don't use it for sex. Use water based lubricants, please, alright, that's our show. Everyone Get out there and play some music and

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