TAGQ (That's A Good Question)
TAGQ (That's A Good Question)
On The Road
This episode features a lively conversation on the spontaneous joys of a road trip through Oregon, exploring memories from college, agriculture in the Willamette Valley, and oddities of life that spark joy and reflection. Join us as we contemplate the meaning of experiences and the unexpected moments that define our travels.
• Reflecting on college memories and youthful misadventures
• Exploring the significance of the Willamette Valley’s agriculture
• Discussing the allure of watching travel videos versus real-life experiences
• Sharing anecdotes about encounters with performance art and creativity
• Engaging in light, humorous debates about everyday topics like car color
great song, great song, great song. Who is that song? Just by a band called grant lee buffalo. No, listener, you're not allowed to hear any of it because of copyright issues. Oh, yeah, brantley. I'm not even allowed to tell you the title of the song. Good point, yeah, but the artist was Brantley Buffalo, and I'm not sure if you know it's a good song, because you're not sure if it's, if it was written and performed in 1970 or if it was performed written and performed in 1970 or if it was written and performed in 2020. I love it when I can tell Okay, well, welcome to this next episode of.
Ben or Scott:That is a Good Question. Welcome to this next episode. How can it to this next episode? How can it be the next episode? If this is the episode, I don't know, but you might have to use your outdoor voice. Sorry, can you hear me? Can you hear me? You just got to turn my track on, not your shouting from the mountaintop. Voice, my outside voice, voice, my outside voice. Close the window. So can you tell our listeners what that noise is in the background? We're about 222 miles away from Seattle right now, traveling at about 75 miles an hour on a large flat rock with a car, just this thing that has four wheels that spin and propel you at incredibly high speeds Experimental podcast, where we're recording while traveling north on I-5. It is where we are Passing through Salem Oregon at the moment.
Ben or Scott:Have you ever been to Salem Oregon? I've been to Salem Oregon. I forget why. Me too. I forget. Why, too, didn't you go to college there? Yeah, I don't remember a thing. That's what people say about their college experience. That's what people say about their college experience to let you know, just like, how much fun they had when they were 20. But that's not actually true. I, I remember probably everything. I mean literally speaking. No, I don't remember everything, because that's not how the human mind works. But well, I didn't. I never blacked out drunk. No, I was actually the one time I got drunk enough to throw up. I was actually that guy that said I am never doing this again and I, I don't know why people do that. I don't know why people get so drunk to the point of being sick. What were you drinking? Mccormick's Vodka, they were just taking shots. Probably had eight drinks that night. Just shots after shot after shot.
Ben or Scott:Yeah, got kicked out of a house party for, uh, jumping on someone's couch. Well, that's the first move when you start a dance situation, right as you jump up on the couch, yeah, exactly. And then someone said you're in. No, this isn't, this isn't show. Y'all are too drunk for this. Please leave. Wow, we're too drunk for this college house party where there's a live band blasting music and we're not allowed to jump on it. I'm sorry, I guess we crossed the boundary. Sorry, don't even get a strike. Was it just you, or was it you and your cohort? It was me and one member of my cohort who jumped on the couch with you. Is it you and your cohort? It was me and one member of my cohort who jumps on the couch with you. I won't say his name lest I incriminate him. I didn't get his consent to do that.
Ben or Scott:I think it's probably beyond the statute of limitations. You're couch jumping. It's raining now. Now I have to use my extra loud outside voice. The statute of limitations Describe to me what the statute of limitations are.
Ben or Scott:It's when, after seven years, you can no longer be prosecuted for certain crimes Most crimes. So, after a certain number of years, you can include a poem by Walt Whitman and not have to worry about copyright issues or that. Well, walt Whitman is public domain, so it's not an issue. That's when things become public domain. That was something else. Women in public domain, so it's not an issue. That's when things become public domain. Pardon, that was something else.
Ben or Scott:I don't know where my brain is at. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, okay, I'm sorry. You're driving, you're driving and you have to make sure you keep your driving part of your brain working. So this is just an experimental podcast. Don't do this at home. I'm sure I didn't really think about that before.
Ben or Scott:We started this kind of uh, but I'm watching too, kind of showing everyone how irresponsible we are right now. But you wouldn't do this alone. I's true, we have two eyes on the road and only one person talking at a time, so we're good. Randomly, I have a car that actually has two steering wheels and two brake pedals. That's right. So you could actually. So we have two people driving at once. So extra safe, right, doubly safe now, because you can steer the car too. I'm the driving instructor and you've never driven before. Yes, and I don't know. Yes, don't look at the cop on the other side of the road. Don't look at the accident that just happened on I-5 South. Oh, he hit the fence in the middle. Oh my gosh, there's a fence in the middle of the road that's just like a barbed-wired fence, except it doesn't have barbs. Yeah, it'd be funny if it did, with metal poles connected by wires and barbed wire that separates I-5 northbound from southbound, just so that us cattle stay in our lane.
Ben or Scott:Yes, I want to be interested if the sound works on this thing at all. We might have to throw this podcast away. Isn't there a way to post-production address, like you know, the din of road noise? Yeah, I'm sure there's an app for that. Okay, I guess we're done. No, we're not.
Ben or Scott:Well, if you don't have anything more to say, who said that there was one second of dead silence and now you're ready to just throw it out the window? Are you the kind of person in conversation where, when there's one second of dead silence, it's like, okay, I'm getting ready to ask the next thing now. Or do you like wait a second, let things settle, and then think just like, oh, just remind yourself that, like, oh, it's okay, and then like, let yourself kind of sit for a second, allow it to be awkward and then, okay, ground yourself again and then move into the next thing, I don't know. This allowing awkwardness is a new skill I'm trying to develop. So you are the formative. Put yourself in the mood. So you are the formative. Well, no, I wouldn't be the one who allows the silence, but I feel the discomfort immediately. So I guess, in that sense, I'm doing the right thing. Well, I didn't ask if you were doing the right thing or not. Oh yeah, sorry, that's judgment. I was just wondering. But you still will allow. Well, you still do allow for the awkwardness, yes, but whether or not you feel comfortable with the awkwardness, that's the that is the question.
Ben or Scott:So can you tell us in a loud enough voice I can try the environment we find ourselves in. The environment we find ourselves in. Well, we're inside of a car car. So there's a lot of like plastic and synthetic material that has this boxed in. It's a softer kind of interior. The outside is pretty hard, red exterior, can you see outside the car car, and then outside from that there's air that, according to the car's thermometer, is 51 degrees. Is the ambient temperature outside. And humidity, I don't know what do you think? Humidity is probably 80, 85 percent. And are we surrounded by skyscrapers or are we surrounded by trees? I mean it's I-5., it's I-5. So you're not recording the full time. No, we were. We got disconnected because of driving down the road. The internet disappeared for a moment. How long were we off air? For A few seconds? Okay, I'll have to start this over. So we're inside of a car, no, the external environment.
Ben or Scott:We're driving right up the middle of Willamette Valley and for those of you that don't know, the Willamette Valley is kind of nestled between the coastal range and the Cascade Range, which are just two mountain ranges, the Cascade Range being much larger, much longer, much taller than the coastal range, and the Laman Valley is known for its rich soils and its comparatively high rate of rainfall compared to the eastern side of the Cascades, and people love that. Compared to the eastern side of the Cascades, and people love that. White people love it for its ability to grow really nice hazelnuts seed for grass. So, like when ranchers need to plant more grass to feed their cows and their pasture, they buy seeds and then they spread it all over the land and where they get the seeds is a lot of the time from farmers that grew that seed in the Willamette Valley and so, yeah, there's grass seed that grows here. People also grow grass for sod in the Willamette Valley.
Ben or Scott:People like to grow blueberries in the Willamette Valley. That's probably blackberry or marion berries that we're looking at here. Michelle will make a video clip of this. Blueberries over here. That's not what I said. Oh, sorry, not there. Okay, it's probably blackberries. Oh, there it is. It says Columbia Star Blackberries. I've never seen this anywhere else, but along the side of the road there's always a sign that tells you what crop is being grown. So, right there, paisley Mutt's A big sign that says that Paisley Mutt's are a little bit easier to tell. But yeah, we're in the Willamette Valley.
Ben or Scott:People also grow grapes here, which is curious to me Because people also grow grapes in Italy Green beans In Napa Valley, which is curious to me because people also grow grapes in, like Italy, green beans and Napa Valley. But for some reason, the much more moist environment, the Willamette Valley, apparently also grows decent grapes. Isn't it more white wines than red wines? I don't know. You think so. Is that what you know? In Europe there's that phenomenon that the white wines are farther north or in more temperate zones than the red wines are in the Mediterranean climate. I see, I see, I see, I see, I see this is technically a Mediterranean climate still, because the main thing about a Mediterranean climate is that there are long, hot, dry summers and although the summers here are cooler and slightly wetter and shorter than other places like, for instance, the Bay Area of California, it is still, I believe, considered Mediterranean because winter is wet, summer is dry. Maybe that's all carrots care, maybe that's all carrots care about. Do you have a long enough, hot enough, dry enough summer? Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps, perhaps, and the sun is sort of out. I guess we're in shade right now, but it's.
Ben or Scott:We finally made it to the end of the rainbow that we were looking at earlier. Before we got on the road, we saw a little chunk of rainbow. It was just like one little sliver. It was one like one-fifth of a rainbow, just a slice. And we found the gold and silver, like that childish Gambino song. We found the gold and silver, just like that childish Gambino song. That sounds like, sounds like an inside thought. You mean, I just said a riddle that you don't even understand. Yeah, oh've got some hops here coming up. The hops grow with a lot of overhead rigging to. They need their wires to grow. Actually, no, those are not hops, that's just a giant bird cage. They keep the birds out rather than in. I think those are not hops. That's just a giant bird cage To keep the birds out rather than in. I think those were cool parents.
Ben or Scott:Wow, how do we talk about something that's more interesting than Agriculture? Agriculture, the plants that we see around us on this audio-based form of entertainment we see around us on this audio-based form of entertainment, it's like playing I Spy with someone that can't see anything. Yeah, that's a question. I don't know. That's a good question, me too. Well, we can't talk about Elon Musk or AI. Those are off the table. Yes, yes, there's nothing else to talk about. Well, I like staring at the mountain ranges on either side because I've crossed them on a bicycle. You've crossed the mountain ranges on a bicycle, both the coastal range and a bicycle.
Ben or Scott:I came from I think it was, coos Bay, over to Eugene, over to Eugene First time in 1980, and biking along with a friend. And we got a friend, a friend, wink, wink. What are we winking about? You don't have friends, oh, okay. You don't have friends, oh, okay. And then we pulled into, biked in Eugene this is 1980. And we needed some tune-up on the bikes. So biking down the Willamette River on a bike trail, pulled up to it and there was a guy with his whole workshop just on his own bike, with a trailer. That was on the side of the bike trail right by the university of oregon and tune up time. He had everything to fix, whatever problem it was. It's like you're playing a video game and you stopped at a like checkpoint. Yeah, that was your, that was your place where you could save your game. Finally, and the bonus is, he helped us find free lodging for the night or a free place to sleep in yeah, someone's backyard in springfield.
Ben or Scott:You ran into a very benevolent npc. Yes, non, what is it? Non-player computer? Is that what npc stands for? Something like that. For those listeners that don't know, npc is a really important term amongst youth culture these days. It's an acronym for something like non-player computer or something like that.
Ben or Scott:When you're playing a video game, you're playing, you know you're a real person, moving your avatar around, and you inevitably run into people that are actually just part of the computer program. Those are non-player computers and their characters are always you know they're not people, so obviously they act kind of funny sometimes, but if you go out of your way to talk to them. You might learn something useful, yeah, or they might give you free help. They'll tell you where to go. They'll give you in-game tips.
Ben or Scott:So you ran into a real-life NPC on your bike trip and then the next day we had to bike over the Cascades and we went over what's called Dead Horse Grade road. We took Dead Horse Grade Because it was a switchback going up to the pass, like not the one you'd drive if you were in a car. You've been to Dead Horse Grave, you made it out there, we biked up it and over it. Can you fast travel there now? Can you just teleport Because you've been there before, just like you do in Skyrim? Oh, it doesn't work that way. Okay, never mind, keep going. I can get in a car that goes really fast. How fast, 80 miles an hour. And drive there 80 miles an hour. Wow, drive 80 miles an hour through city streets. So that was my first time, my first time in Willamette Valley. I did not use a car at all and got in and out of the valley.
Ben or Scott:Do you remember anything from the trip? Or were you too drunk? We didn't drink that much. So you remember? I remember everything. Oh, this whole time you're telling me stories from the trip.
Ben or Scott:So, of course, and every day, I would send a postcard to my girlfriend and so I could look up the postcard I sent from Eugene. I mean, I've got it somewhere at home Because I so you didn't send it to your girlfriend and kept it. No, she kept it. Your imaginary girlfriend. She kept it and then we did not break up and then you stole it from her. Your mom, it's with you. Your mom it's in the garage. Whoa, your girlfriend was my mom it's in the garage. Whoa, your girlfriend with my mom. What a coincidence. Wow, I just thought you're like. I thought like you just got married. Yeah, that's wild.
Ben or Scott:So a little technical aside, if you go slower, there's less road noise. I'm not going to go slower. Well, I mean, just Stay in tone. Yeah, I don't mean that we're not going to tiptoee around, walk on eggshells just to make the listener more comfortable here. Okay, we have places to be. This really seems like a natural. They're in the car with us, not to. I'm playing the part differently. It's really riled up here. This seems to be a caffeinated podcast. Are you on caffeine? Yeah, I feel like I often am when I'm on the podcast. Yeah, me too, really riled up. This is more riled up, riled up. This is more riled up, riled up.
Ben or Scott:Would you be entertained if what we're experiencing here, going down the interstate, was a video game? No, how about the opposite? What if you just pretend this is a video game? Does that entertain you? No Kind of boring. Why would you sit in front of a video game and just… why would I pretend it's a video game when it's real life?
Ben or Scott:Well, I know people and I did this too like during the pandemic people would just find videos of, like, um, a plane flight. Small plane guys would just record their whole flight and publish it, and so people would just watch. Like you're taking the plane flight, but you're not there, which is maybe more exciting. What's going on there psychologically? Motion without moving. So motion without moving. So I don't, that's not quite the answer to life.
Ben or Scott:Why engage in such behavior? Why watch a video of someone driving or flying a plane? I just I don't understand what the motivations? Well, I watched the ones where they cut out all the middle and they just showed the takeoff and the landing. Well, that's okay. So that was. Yeah, that makes a little more sense.
Ben or Scott:But why would you spend your time doing that? It was a learning situation, like at least with video games. There's a challenge involved, there's a story involved. At least with television, there's a story. Yeah, the ones I watched had a story. That's like making yourself a cup of coffee in the morning. But instead of actually making yourself a cup of coffee in the morning, but instead of actually making yourself a cup of coffee in the morning, you're watching a video of yourself making a cup of coffee in the morning and I get how it would be a Zen moment, you know, because a big part of Zen is like learn to see the wonder in the everyday things. But it's like, well, at that point, why aren't you just living the everyday thing things? But it's like, well, at that point, why aren't you just like living the everyday thing?
Ben or Scott:So I get the appeal behind why people watch YouTube videos and things of like people like being really, really meticulous about making tea and stuff, or people like building like a log cabin. There's something really satisfying about those videos. That's what my brother watches. I thought he watched Futurama. No, he watches YouTube.
Ben or Scott:During the pandemic, he watched YouTube of van life people. I guess you can. Typically people can watch more than just one thing. They can watch a variety of things. Typically, people can watch more than just one thing. They can watch a variety of things. He watched people who lived their life in vans and it was a couple and you know, you're just watching these people make a YouTube video day after day as they drive from place to place and live out of their van. I mean, that's kind of just reality television, right Van life. And then all the people he was following gave up the van life and now they're, all you know, buying a cabin in the woods and rebuilding it. Now they're going to do the tiny house yeah. Now they're doing like, oh, we're building this new thing and coming, yeah, you know, and they're actually making a living off of their followers.
Ben or Scott:I guess that's a similar thing as watching videos of people getting in their cars and putting their key in the ignition and starting and going places, similar to like a pilot getting in, starting a plane and taking off and landing. Well, the ones I watched had drama in them and like it was people small and flying their small plane into the Oshkosh Wisconsin airport during the big flying air field. They have a big thing there where everybody flies into Oshkosh. We've got a big thing there where everybody flies into Oshkosh and it's an event. We've got a big thing there. So, landing at those airports during that festival Big thing in Oshkosh, magosh.
Ben or Scott:Magosh is not in the name of the town, it's in the name of the company that makes the overalls Gosh, gosh, gosh. This is how I know I'm close to Portland. It's this little inn called Snooze Inn, like snoozing, but it's the Snooze Inn. So if you need the snooze, you go to the Snooze in, like snoozing, but it's the snooze in. So if you need the snooze, you go to the snooze in. They got plenty of beds, snoozing, snoozing.
Ben or Scott:So Are you okay With Supporting the Manufacturer of this car for the thing we're sponsoring for this podcast? If you say yes, I know what my next line is. The answer is tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick with my car and then, as soon as they say that the check engine lights are on. I'll take the risk. The answer is yes. So what, wait? Did you hear that? I heard your yes, I think something just happened with my engine.
Ben or Scott:What is love? I'm just kidding. Okay, keep going. What is love? What is love? They should pay us for this. Am I allowed to finish this sentence? You can say it? Well, wait, but you didn't set it up right. What car company uses that phrase as their advertisement? They didn't say it, right? Okay, sorry, you do it. Love Is a Don't. No, my God, they should not pay us for this. We're not doing a good job. No, my God, they should not pay us for this. We're not doing a good job. Love, it's what makes a Subaru A Subaru, and we're not sponsoring it. There's no question. It's a statement. And even though the podcast logo looks like a different car company, because the AI that made the image put an L on it instead of whatever we are driving in the car the maroon Subaru Forester.
Ben or Scott:Maroon and what planet is this car? A maroon colored car? Okay, I'm bad at colors. What color do you think it is? It is red. Okay, don't get me wrong. Maroon and red are roughly connected. I think there's a little blue tint in this red. It's definitely not green though. Okay. Well, it's a good car, this car in particular, if you stick your computer out the window and then you can Take a look. And then you can take a look. Yeah, exactly, let the viewer decide. I guess where you're looking right now, it does look pretty maroon. That's so interesting. Wow, what's happening? I feel like it's definitely red. I feel like we should somehow have a poll for our viewers to vote. We should post a picture of the car and they could decide. They could make the decision for us. But this car is a turbo charged beast, that that if you take your foot off the gas, it jumps forward Just because it wants to go.
Ben or Scott:I like that story You're saying I made it up. I don't know if that's typically true. That's a weird word to use. I don't know if it's actually true. People have noticed that I do say things in riddles and stories that you're an artist are not totally grounded in absolute fact speaking parables. Yeah, so that's who sponsored us? Oh, he sponsored this story, okay, okay, oh, wow, you're allowed to get people to pull over to the left side, or is that something that that person shouldn't have done? We're driving by a flashing blue light. I don't often see people get pulled over, but on this trip I think over the course of like this nine hours of driving, I think that's four people I've seen actively being pulled over.
Ben or Scott:We could get pulled over for podcasting while driving. That's fine. I don't think that. Well, we're getting into heavy traffic here. No, we are. He's lying, okay, he's just trying to get out of this. It feels awkward.
Ben or Scott:We're at mile marker 290. How many miles are we going? We're going to 300 and this podcast is over. Is that the word? That's the decision handed down from management. See, that's maroon. Yeah, okay, I guess my car is pretty similar. We got to post that. We've got to get that poll going. We've got to see what people think. You're maroonish? Yeah, I don't even. I think if you saw this car full on, like the broad side of a barn, I think it's red, I think it's red, I think it's red.
Ben or Scott:Or coming to the split where you could decide to go to Beaverton or to Oswego, milwaukee, oshkosh, bogosh, osh Hardware Is there a town called Oshkosh in Osh, I'm sure? Are you making that up? No, I don't think there's one in working. If so, there's a lot. I don't know just drove by a I don't know orange cheap, where the guy had the uh sticker up out back that says boragunian, oregonian, with a rifle as part of the sticker. That's slippery ground, dad, that's slippery ground.
Ben or Scott:I hear the word Elon Musk about to come out of your mouth. I didn't, did it come out of my mouth. No, doge alert, doge alert, doge alert, doge alert. Get him out of your mouth. Now we're going to get going to find these keywords. We have to go into the back of my pocket and pull out a new topic.
Ben or Scott:Okay, here it is. What is it? Blue people? Oh, yes, blue people. Blue people is your word. Blue people, what do I think about blue? Blue people is your word. Blue people have good rhythm. Could you say it in a sentence, please? Blue people have good rhythm. What's the origin of the word? Please? It's a Las Vegas entertainment company called Blue man Group. They paint themselves blue. It's funny. I was thinking about blue people today and they found on drums.
Ben or Scott:But today, this morning, I was thinking about when I was a blue person for a day and how that was sort of a, a yes and moment for me. Interesting in that I um uh niece, who was asked if I wanted to run beta breakers with her and get into costume. Run beta breakers with her and get into costume, and her costume was wonder woman. And uh, I said, oh. I just leaped in and said, okay, remember the day, but my brain is fabricating all sorts of images. I will pick up some other superhero and I went with Nightcrawler. Yeah, okay, yep, yep, yep. Now my memory is being jogged, still fabricating images.
Ben or Scott:But, yep, yep, and at four in the morning, as I'm putting on the blue face makeup, wow, my youngest son had a horrible blue infection and was sleeping on the bathroom floor. At four in the morning and I go in and I'm putting on this blue makeup all over my face, he wakes up in a feverish delirium and sees his dad in the mirror, completely blue. Yeah, and out of the whole, thousands of people doing this race, two people called me out. So, hey, it's j Jake Gyllenhaal. I don't know, I don't know who played Nightcrawler actually, but they just yelled Nightcrawler. How'd they call you out? It's like, hey, nightcrawler. Yeah, that was my.
Ben or Scott:What's your blue person story? Oh, it doesn't, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. I was just thinking of, I was just thinking of when I saw the Blue man Group when I was in eighth grade. You saw the Blue man Group. Yeah, I saw there was a, just a I don't know why. I just had a really cool english teacher in eighth grade and he set up. He set up just a couple of like outside of school activities that we could sign up with. So they're like outside of fun school field trips that were completely unrelated to school, and he just said sign up here. And uh, if you can't afford it, then, like, we'll figure out, we'll figure something out. So we tried to make it as accessible as possible and based on however many people, we'll figure out carpooling and everything with teachers and parents and all that. And one of the field trips was laser tag, and then another one of the field trips was going to see the pool. Oh, and then another field trip was the Giants game and that was a whole thing.
Ben or Scott:Yeah, the train got stopped for really morbid reasons and we didn't show up until the bottom of the eighth inning. Someone walked in front of the train. Thanks, dad, I think people could have finished it themselves. But yes, that's exactly what happened. And so the us group of excavators were on the train and we were literally on the train for two and a half three hours. You missed several innings. We missed several innings, I remember, yeah, but one of them was the train to the Blue Bank was much. It was a much smoother run.
Ben or Scott:So what do you remember from the Blue man Group? From the Blue man Group, the one moment that sticks out in my brain is they were playing the marimba and they had just like finished this super epic song and they were just like. They were drumming on these like snare drums and toms that were covered in paint and there was just like blue light everywhere and all you could see was their faces and their hands and their drumsticks and they were just like, and every hit they had was just a splash of color. And then they finished this super epic song and then, like two and a half three seconds afterwards, someone in the crowd just yelled and then all in unison, all of the all of the blue men, just like, looked up with their like expressionless, but also just like deer in the headlights, expressions like a so alien like, and they like looked up, like. It was just like wow, this is fascinating.
Ben or Scott:Someone just yelled out in the audience and then another two and a half or three seconds later, the guy in the marimba starts going and I, you know, played a few bars of the intro to Freebird, but then he stopped. Do you think the guy who yelled out was a plant in the audience? It cut 50-50. I have no idea. I have no idea. It made me laugh so hard as a 14-year-old Listener.
Ben or Scott:Their timing was impeccable. They put on oh man, yeah, it was a good show. They tell a good story. It's amazing how they can be so alien-like but also so charming at the same time. Very incredible. But anyway, yeah, blue men, blue people. All right, I'll put that card away. I'll save that one for another time. Okay, and I'm just in contact. That was good.
Ben or Scott:If it's okay with you, we can add I think we're about to go under the chairlift that connects different parts of the Oregon Health Center, from the stuff on the hill to the stuff below, and I just want to look at portland as we go through it. So, yeah, so, listener, thanks for this is where we leave you. Thanks for listening and, uh, looking at whatever you're looking at. You know, and maybe, if you're interested, you can, whatever you're doing, look up a video of the thing that you're doing and then you can watch that video another time. You can probably that video another time. You can probably get a video of people driving on board. But oh, here's the gondola. We gotta go, gotta go, okay, all right, before we go under. All right, bye, I love you everyone. Bye, bye, stop, stop, stop recording.
