Segmented Questions

A rambling, free-flowing conversation explores everything from abandoned home projects to plant biology, Wikipedia games to music history, all connected through tangential thought patterns and nostalgic reflections.

• Wall of suspended dreams - discussing postponed ambitions and unused possessions
• The surprising ecosystem of backyard goldfish ponds, including one resilient fish with an unusual growth
• Plant biology lesson on "stolons" - how strawberries colonize territory through runners
• Playing the Wikipedia game - racing from metamorphic rock to the Boston Tea Party
• The unexpected origin story of "Wagon Wheel" - Bob Dylan wrote only the chorus
• Reflection on middle school as a uniquely challenging developmental period
• Nostalgia for entertainment magazines and the changing ways we consume media
• Local business highlight: Clock Tower Music in San Carlos, California

Transcript

The Wall of Suspended Dreams

Scott 0:02

wow, how's it going what's behind you this is my. You know how some people have backgrounds with books in them to like look like they're all studious and organized. This is my wall, of wall of suspended dreams suspended dreams doesn't mean they aren't going to happen. Doesn't mean we're not going to go camping or whatever else is back there.

Ben 0:44

Move back into the apartment in the middle of Oregon with us. Yeah.

Scott 0:57

Yeah.

Ben 0:58

You're not going to host another fondue night for Christmas Eve.

Scott 1:03

Is that what you see? I have to go a little high, well, you?

Ben 1:07

changed the angle. Yeah, it doesn't mean you're not going to celebrate another Christmas one of these days.

Scott 1:15

That'll all happen Most likely.

Ben 1:18

There are two different cuisine art, cuisine art.

Scott 1:23

Everyone can have one. Oh, that's funny. I just opened a box and found a Cuisinart of yours.

Ben 1:30

I think From a processor.

Scott 1:32

Yeah, it's probably mine. That's for your longer term kitchen, not for your grad school kitchen.

Kitchen Appliances and Fish Tanks

Ben 1:42

Yes, yeah, this is true. It was one of those things where, when I was moving to whitby island, uh, that I was talking to my future housemates, they were like, don't bring any kitchen stuff. We got it all covered, you don't need to bring anything. And I'm like, okay, well, I'm gonna bring my standing mixer, because I imagine you don't have one of those. But everything else, yeah, okay, sure, I'll just take a word for it. What about cast iron? They're like, oh, cast iron too. Yeah, that sounds great, bring that. Yeah, yeah. And then I got there and there was no food processor. I really wish I did.

Scott 2:22

You wish huh.

Ben 2:24

I wish, huh, I wish. I wish my food product well. Now I'm in a house with one of those old-fashioned food processors that they don't make like they used to, you know, oh yeah, that enough evidence that I'm not making making this up yeah, yeah but that's because we put out for donation a fish tank that somehow showed up in my garage I don't know how Pretty big one. That's when you were living abroad in.

Scott 2:59

Wisconsin.

Ben 3:04

And you said hey, there's a, a fish tank, let's go haul it home I think adam saw it on the side of the road and said like hey, I know we were talking about like getting a fish tank for, like you know, doing like breeding with the goldfish. What is, how does this one look?

Ben 3:22

no, it was in the middle of covid, when we had extra time on our hands and I made a list of a million and one different projects that I aspired to do, green goldfish being one of them, because the the reason that Fishtank is in there is because I was noticing that the alleles and phenotype for the white goldfish was leaving and I wanted to get the goldfish with the white spots to have sex. I didn't want any others to.

Scott 4:02

Moments ago I was pondering the fish I fed them, for who knows how long it's been. We are responsible parents.

Ben 4:14

Don't be confused listener or don't be concerned.

Scott 4:18

Well, they have a lot of stuff to eat in that very natural pond they're in, hopefully, and I guess they don't eat as much in the winter, that's true, but anyway, the one that has a big growth on its side there's white. It's white and dark, you know it's. I don't really want to look too close, but it's like is that some of the albinism?

Ben 4:52

The fish itself is white and dark.

Scott 4:54

No, the growth.

Ben 4:56

The growth on the side is white and dark. So, it's not dark and dark at the same time.

Scott 5:03

No, it's like black and white. Black and brown or something.

Ben 5:08

Well, it hasn't always been that way.

Scott 5:11

Yeah, I don't know, it keeps on living.

Ben 5:15

To me it's probably you know, an appendage of some sorts that just doesn't have the same sort of. You know, the organism that is the fish doesn't have the same sort of. Uh, you know the the organism that is the fish doesn't have the same standards to maintain its uh cleanliness at the moment.

Scott 5:38

Um, I stand there when I I would just have goldfish flakes at the moment. I put them out and I watched who was brave enough to come to the surface the first, and it was that fish that came to the surface.

Ben 5:52

It's got nothing to lose at this point.

Scott 5:54

Yeah.

Ben 5:54

It was a phaser number.

The Fish Pond Ecosystem

Scott 5:57

Could be yeah.

Ben 6:00

I wonder how much muck is at the bottom of that pond.

Scott 6:04

I don't know.

Ben 6:05

There are dozens of dead fish down there.

Scott 6:08

Probably ready to go. A generation of poop Grow something.

Ben 6:12

Algae.

Scott 6:14

Isn't that what they want? Algae to eat.

Ben 6:16

Pretty soon yeah. I mean yeah, and there are probably lots of insects that live in there too. I'm sure it's a great little ecosystem. That's probably why it's probably a self-sustaining ecosystem. That's why you don't really have to feed it much if there are probably lots of different little invertebrates living down there and water bugs, yeah, swimming amongst, amongst fishies interesting.

Scott 6:40

Yeah, yeah, which wouldn't? It wouldn't occur. If it was an indoor tank, you wouldn't get to that level of maybe self self-sustaining Um so I would want to yeah. I was thinking that, uh, in this podcast, which is called abbreviated TAGQ, that you know, we've, we've had the one consistent segment of like a pretend advertisement.

Ben 7:22

Yes.

New Podcast Segments Proposal

Scott 7:23

Nobody knew they were pretend. I think everybody did okay, uh, okay, I was thinking we should have another segment, which we've already done, but we've never called it out. It's like Ben or Scott explain something they really feel like explaining.

Ben 7:58

I am open to this proposal.

Scott 8:02

Cause that's it. It's like this is podcast is the opportunity to go more into depth into those thoughts you have in your head than you can in any other situation you know I don't have.

Ben 8:20

I don't often have new thoughts, though, oh uh-huh.

Scott 8:23

I don't often have new thoughts, though. Oh, uh-huh, listen. Do you believe that?

Ben 8:30

Do you believe that I've been been firefighting these last few days? I've been running into buildings with burning asbestos. Really no.

Scott 8:47

You're improv-ing being a firefighter in a. I just choked on my sweet and spicy tea. Abestos-burning building Stolen improv. Stolen valor improv.

Ben 9:03

Stolen, okay, you know what a stolen?

Scott 9:07

is it's? It's a plant thing it's a point thing like grass. Has the stolen at the top of it? Not quite. No, uh, let's see. Are you going to keep guessing? Yes, is it part of the stem?

Ben 9:27

Yes and no.

Scott 9:29

Is it?

Ben 9:30

Oh, I was supposed to guess, well, what were you about to do, if not guess?

Scott 9:38

Is it more green or more woody? Probably green.

Ben 9:47

I'd say mostly green, but it's kind of. It's mostly in herbaceous things, the things that grow like about as high as grass do.

Scott 10:00

Oh.

Ben 10:01

Another hint is strawberries.

Scott 10:04

Hint of strawberries. A hint is strawberries, hint of strawberries.

Ben 10:08

A hint is strawberries.

Scott 10:10

Oh, it's where it goes off and steals some new territory by putting out a runner.

Ben 10:16

Yeah, yeah, they're like above ground rhizomes and it's like the, the, the, the stolen is the like, actual anatomical feature that connects the parent strawberry plants to the baby that's being shot off in a different direction. It's like a stem, I know, but it's different than a regular stem.

Scott 10:43

It is a stem that connects a baby to an adult. It's interesting that it has the same sounds in the word as the you know like stolen, like there's a connection there.

Ben 10:54

As in it's stolen. It has stolen some territory. Yes, yeah, something tells me that the botanist that named it didn't really wasn't really thinking about that.

Scott 11:06

Well, that happens with the strawberries in our front yard.

Ben 11:08

They are gaining territory faster than the Are plants really ever stealing anything, or are they just?

Scott 11:16

Gaining territory faster than the mint.

Ben 11:21

Wow, faster than yeah.

Scott 11:25

I guess that's true. It's a war between the mint and the wild strawberry. It's a war. These plants are at war Nature.

Ben 11:38

But I'm open to that proposal. Okay, where Scott or Ben Describe something that they feel like describing, I also feel like what the podcast is.

Scott 11:51

That's a good question and oh, we should have a question isn't that?

Ben 11:56

there's always some question that.

Scott 11:58

That should be a, that should be a feature too there I?

Ben 12:03

I think there is always. I think that has been a feature, isn't that I always come with a question? That's the only preparation I really do for this podcast. Good, good, good, and sometimes I end up, not actually asking it, but because other questions have been asked.

Scott 12:26

The vision of labor that I was unaware of, so I was unable to let you know when you failed.

Ben 12:35

Yes, well, maybe I just never failed.

Scott 12:38

Why? Well, let's wrap this up, let's wrap it.

Ben 12:46

Yeah, uh, let's say I, yes. I don't know if I can come up with a monologue every time, though you know, that's. I've got a lot of homework to do already. We're just coming up with a questions, I guess this whole stolen conversation though, that's yeah, that counts. That's my monologue.

Scott 13:11

Why did you want to bring up stolons? Yeah?

Ben 13:17

there was a word you said that reminded me of it. I can't use it back now, though. Okay, my short term memory is not good enough for that.

Scott 13:25

I see it was a random. It was a random hyper link.

Ben 13:30

You know what a stolen is.

Scott 13:33

You are.

Ben 13:34

It was a random hyperlink, yes, and now we accidentally quit out of the browser, so we can't press the back button.

Scott 13:44

You did. Oh, sorry, I get the analogy and apologies.

Ben 13:53

Yes, and.

Scott 13:56

Yes, and you made an offer.

Ben 14:02

You made an improv offer and I took it there.

Scott 14:06

Good to know.

Ben 14:07

Have you ever played the Wikipedia game?

Scott 14:11

No, oh, that's one where you drill down through Wikipedia. How do you win?

Ben 14:22

That's, that's, that's a verb for it, Drill down. Yes, well, you, you decide you start on some Wikipedia page, some completely arbitrary Wikipedia page, say it's a metamorphic rock, and then you decide with you and your game partners what wikipedia page you want to end up on. And it might be boston tea party. Oh, wow, I didn't even know you had tea there and I said boston tea party as you lifted it. Wow, I was actually looking at my own tea. Yeah, okay, this episode brought to you by the Boston Tea Party Might not be here today without it, although I think people would say I think it would just be a different sort of revolutionary act. But the Wikipedia page.

Ben 15:19

The audience wants us to try this Metamorphic rock okay, and then get to the wikipedia page for uh, uh. So it could be like wiki links okay, yeah, you have to stay within the wikipedia website, and so you start at the page for metamorphic rock I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna follow the link to marble and you can only click hyperlinks.

Scott 15:50

You can't type anything you can only use your trackpad some marbles were probably used. Why, where are marbles? Marble, I think I can get to like capital. Let's see if I can do it. Sculpture construction civil engineering. That's where I'm going okay, oh, yeah, oh, it's a game like independent race. Okay, yeah, yeah, it's a race otherwise like you know, because you can always get there.

Ben 16:19

But if there, if there's no competition, then you know like what's the point? It's like playing a football game by yourself. It's like okay, yeah yeah kind of fun. Go catch a football and throw it in the air and catch it again I'm gonna go to tennessee, marvel I, I suppose you.

Scott 16:35

The points are that is it who gets there first, or how many steps?

Ben 16:40

I took a question I never did. It is.

Scott 16:49

I'm getting there soon. Us Congress.

Ben 16:52

Oh man, I'm always really bad. I don't know what it is for me. Leeds, England.

Scott 17:06

You're so much closer than I am. See history, I gotta go to the history. Oh, shoot history. There we go. The first continental congress. Okay, b Ding ding ding.

Ben 17:23

Damn it, it's not British Isles.

Scott 17:32

That's interesting. I can see that I would annoy people playing that game. Say more.

Ben 17:40

Pardon, say more, why would you annoy people?

Scott 17:41

playing that game Say more Pardon.

Ben 17:43

Say more. Why would you annoy people playing this game?

Scott 17:46

Because I'd be good at it.

Ben 17:48

Yeah, yeah. Well, it only annoyed them, if they're.

Scott 17:52

Because I've been collecting trivia forever.

Ben 18:01

Yeah, how do you collect trivia, trivia again. How do you? How do you do that?

Scott 18:05

read a lot of magazines you don't. You don't subscribe to magazines anymore, though why don't you?

Ben 18:13

subscribe to magazines anymore. You used to always get entertainment weekly and time, and there were a couple of others in there too that like came and went as I grew up yeah, it's not a different way.

Scott 18:25

Now you know it's online you still read time magazine used to be twitter I feel like time articles for a while they were paid, but not so much. I don't pay them at the moment, so they don't. They only show you a little if you don't pay.

Ben 18:44

Why read Time and not the New Yorker?

Scott 18:55

Why read? Why read either?

Ben 19:00

Okay, why read Time? Because you do or you have.

Scott 19:07

Well, it was. I mean like I don't watch SNL every decade in the past 50, but I watch it some decades. Yeah, you know, it's like we want to know the new york-centric take on things. It's because they got a lot of swing. You know um, but it's like, do I read the hollywood reporter? Yeah, I don't know. Don't know um, where will this new information?

Ben 19:48

be interesting is usually the question I have before where will this new? And that's the question you have before you write an article as part of your syndicated journalist position read, read, read, read, read an article. It's like where should I reach out before I write a column? Why will this information Interesting which editor?

Scott 20:09

You're flipping this upside down.

Ben 20:13

I am Well. There's not any consequence for doing that.

Scott 20:21

My writing is in you know, skeets.

Ben 20:28

Say more.

Scott 20:30

Oh, that's just the new version of tweets.

Ben 20:33

Skeets and bounds, not to be confused with meats and bounds. Skeets and bounds.

Scott 20:38

Skeets and tweets. I don't know about that.

Ben 20:42

The original US survey system was done in Meats and Bounds, which is like. I don't know if it's a progenitor for meters or whatever, but when they were first trying to divvy up the land and cut it up into different boundaries and things, it was through a system of Meats and Bounds.

Scott 21:05

Here we'll go to the Wikipedia page for meets and bounds, and then we will wind up at Skeeter. Well, we're playing the Wikipedia game.

Ben 21:17

We're playing the Wikipedia game You're not explaining the concept. No, we won't do it. Concept no, I explained it. I explained it. You start on one Wikipedia page and then you cook.

Scott 21:25

No, no, not that concept, the meats. Thing.

Ben 21:32

Well, it was just a callback to say I'm going to go to the Wikipedia page.

Scott 21:37

I want to know how you get from that what it is.

Ben 21:39

It is a method of describing land, real property or real estate. What do you want to know? How you get from that? It is a method of describing land, real property or real estate. What do you want to know?

Scott 21:44

How do you get to acres from a meet? Is a meet a measure of acreage? A meet?

Ben 21:59

refers to a boundary defined by the measurement of each straight run specified by the distance between the terminal points sure it's a faith it's a faith and it's where two polygons touch each other.

Scott 22:16

Yeah, it's an error an edge Vertice.

Ben 22:20

Meat is a vertice.

Scott 22:22

Anyway, you were talking about skates.

Ben 22:23

Skates sounds way more fun. Let's forget about this. Meats and bounds.

Scott 22:27

You know what?

Ben 22:29

For the listener. I'm sorry, we just bored you so much. Imagine some British dude skipping Meats and bounds. Meats and bounds. I'm measuring the meats and bounds. That's what meats and bounds. Oh, I'm measuring the meats and bounds. That's what meats and bounds are. It's just old British guys like oh, we need to get this perfect.

Scott 22:46

Oh, yes, the meats are where the two fields meet Right and the bounds are like a succession of meats that surround your entire field.

Ben 23:03

Yeah, why do we have to use this language anymore? We're essentially you're, I don't know. You're, essentially we're like speaking old english now and it's just like uh, it's hurting my brain. Okay, sorry, wait. Bound refer more to a general boundary description, such as along a certain water course, a stone wall or an adjoining public roadway or an existing building. I don't know, it's too confusing for me. It's just a bunch of things. So again imagine a British man skipping in his little knickers and just obsessed with cutting up the land it's a nice.

Scott 23:42

All the lines. It's all the lines you need to draw to like know who owns what on each side of that line.

Ben 23:50

Yes, yeah.

Scott 23:52

Yep.

Ben 23:53

Yeah, really fun stuff. What's your? What are skeets? How do you get your? You get your news in skeets what are skeets? Blue do you get your news in skeets? What are skeets?

Scott 24:02

Blue Sky is the Twitter clone, and that's what they call tweets on Blue Sky.

Ben 24:13

Is that informal or formal?

Scott 24:16

Informal. I love it, but it just seemed to you know the engineers through skeets beats.

Ben 24:27

Is there a character limit on skeets?

Scott 24:30

it's higher, pretty high, like you know.

Ben 24:35

Two paragraph I mean, didn't Twitter's change even before it could get?

Scott 24:40

Twitter's went up, but this is probably a little higher than that, so they call it, you know, micro blogging, so it is Micro blogging.

Ben 24:52

Yeah.

Scott 24:53

Limited blogging, which actually works, because you're more likely to just scan someone's micro blog and, if you're interested, dig deeper than you are to, like you know, subscribe to their blog and whatever pay attention to it or whatever. No, so it's like yeah, everybody's like just a carny on the sidewalk or whatever saying here, come in and see the show inside. You know, here's, here's podcast. Yeah, I mean in a lot of ways.

Ben 25:35

That is what social media is, yeah, and a lot of people just have accounts so that they can go visit people's different stalls. That's kind of like what mine is. It's like I very rarely actually hand out flyers, but I go visit, yeah, other stalls, quite.

Scott 25:52

I mean it gets to be like christmas cards, like it's a big old marketplace once a year. You'll put up something.

Ben 25:59

I'll put up something that will like confine everyone I still live in california what I've been up to. These are what my values are. I won't tell you who I voted for, but well, I guess skeets are different, so you'll definitely probably hear that information in a christmas card, more implicit than anything but going off the side.

Scott 26:21

So I just figured out who we should sponsor this Cuisinart oh.

Ben 26:28

We already sponsored Cuisinart.

Scott 26:30

Who did we?

Ben 26:32

Cuisinart.

Scott 26:33

Cuisinart, that was just. That was a mild side suggestion, don't you think?

Clock Tower Music Spotlight

Ben 26:40

Okay, sure, we turn people's brains on to queasy night, is that something? No, who should we sponsor?

Scott 26:50

What do you think? Clock Tower Music.

Ben 26:55

Clock Tower Music Congratulations. You won the wild card this year.

Scott 27:03

Just repaired my younger son's alto saxophone by the proprietor, brian.

Ben 27:17

Proprietor of Clocksdown, huge Clocksdown. The proprietor, brian the proprietor.

Scott 27:26

San Carlos, california, and then Friday night they had an open mic At San Carlos Week of the Family or something like that open mic and is that like? Ski week yeah, well, yeah, kind of, and I set up the back, uh back brian on uh wagon wheel on Wagon Wheel. So I sang back up and played guitar, and Wagon Wheel is this what's your favorite verse?

Scott 28:09

The chorus was just like on a Dylan bootleg. He just made up the chorus one day, and then this other group came along and wrote verses to it and recorded it.

Ben 28:22

Dylan, bob Dylan, and then this other group came along and wrote verses to it and recorded it dylan, bob, dylan, bob dylan wrote the chorus to wagon. Yeah, wow, this is. It is new information for most people, or does everyone know this?

Scott 28:36

yeah, wikipedia knows it. Yeah, and they actually published the end result jointly. Oh, really had the chorus that's his and the verse that's the other guy's. Yeah, okay, so so yeah, it was a great open mic. Uh, everyone really got into that song.

Ben 29:08

It was the where was it hosted?

Scott 29:10

at clock tower music.

Ben 29:12

It was in clock tower nice, nice, nice nice nice, nice like a wagon wheel.

Scott 29:22

Rock me mama any way you feel. Rock me mama like the wind and the rain. Rock me mama like a southbound train. Those are Bob's words.

Ben 29:41

I had no idea, yeah.

Scott 29:46

You just thought it was Darius Rucker, you just thought it was Hootie who wrote the song.

Ben 29:51

I had no idea who it was. I thought it was just a one hit wonder that people were really into. Oh, kind of like, what's that one song, wonderwall, I don't even know? Yeah, I think it was one hit wonder too. So there we go, kind of like, what's that one song, wonderwall, I don't even know, isn't that one hit wonder too? Yep.

Scott 30:07

So there we go, clocktower music, clocktowermusic Out there.

Ben 30:15

Once a month. Get your guitars and get all your instruments fixed and lessons there For a totally normal price guitars and get all your instruments there and lessons there for a totally normal price get your bass lessons from Marley for a totally normal price. Thank you, yeah if you want, if you want local musicians and prepare people in town, you know, gotta gotta give credit for credit to say appropriately yep. What are you gonna do with that alto saxophone now?

Scott 31:03

I don't know. Adam might have taken it home with him.

Ben 31:06

Oh, is he trying to play it?

Scott 31:08

Yeah, I need a saxophone player for a song if the talent show ever comes back to July 4th.

Ben 31:20

Did you set him on to this? Did you say hey, adam, we should brush off your woodwind skills and get back on this?

Scott 31:30

well, I asked him and he said no, my sax needs repair. And then I we got it repaired, so very good I'll see.

Nostalgia for Entertainment Magazines

Ben 31:40

Very good, very good, very good, nice, wow. All this talk takes. All this talk about time magazine Didn't even mention entertainment, weekly Clock, tower music All this takes me right back to middle school. Nostalgia is a weird thing, right. I remember coming home and finding those magazines in the mail and just being like I'm bored and hungry. I got a lot of homework to do. I live in California, the sun is shining, life is good, the grass is green. There's this issue of Entertainment Weekly that just came in. It's got Ryan Reynolds on the cover talking about his new movie, deadpool. I'm like, yeah, I'll flip through this, see, see what they quoted Kenan Thompson is saying on SNL. It was like going. It was like flipping through a bunch of mini games that you didn't actually have to like participate in. It was like a comic book.

Ben 32:46

Like reading it was like reading About pop culture icons, though, which I haven't really ever had, since it's a medium that I just don't consume anymore In written form. Yeah, or the pile of the magazines in the there was in the bathroom cabinet right in front of the toilet yeah.

Scott 33:20

Good times, yeah. Good times, good times yeah and Clocktower.

Ben 33:32

I guess, I'd rather Arnold Frappuccinos and Entertainment Weekly.

Scott 33:36

I'd rather read about entertainers than kings and queens, you know yeah, artists.

Crown Reflections

Ben 33:45

I'd rather read know artists in the industry than kings and queens for sure, because at least they've, you know at least. They're creating things that are like get you to think, whereas you know, maybe I'm too hard on monarchs and royalty, but oh my God, it's just like it's more than boring, it's like actively tiring, just like why, are we To watch the inheritance of power without merit or voting is you know that's like religious they're believing something they're believing in the religion of the crown.

Ben 34:42

Why? What is the effect? What is the purpose of the crowd these days?

Scott 34:53

he scratches his head vigorously well, they'd be in a different position if they were faced with a Hitler-like figure uh, oh, I see you're saying the king could have if the prime minister, you know power over charles. Charles could be no power over the government, like if it's a really bad government.

Ben 35:23

It's like an added, supposedly theoretically added layer of safety.

Scott 35:29

Yeah, yeah that the royalty are there as a safeguard against wacko democracy.

Ben 35:40

Why and I guess theoretically it could also be the other way around that the democracy is a safeguard against the wacko monarch. Yeah, are they even considered monarchs? Or is that more like a? Does that more speak to the power of the crown? More so it's a constitutional monarch. Power of the crown more so than the.

Scott 36:04

It's a constitutional monarchy, if we're talking about England, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ben 36:15

How did we get?

Scott 36:17

Pardon, how did we get talking about?

Ben 36:22

Because you said you would rather. You would rather read about entertainers and artists.

Ben 36:28

Yeah, yeah um, I was watching a movie yesterday about, uh, this middle schooler, and you know how a few of these movies have come out in the last like five or six years, about like 13, 14 year olds. These like coming-of-age stories. They're so scary how accurate they are. All this talk about actually this is the question I came to with and now I've just been thinking about middle school because time magazine. But I've been thinking, I was thinking a lot about middle school last night watching and I see the time gap.

Ben 37:05

They have a minute three quarters left and I'm just, why do we let children at this very impressionable developmental age just be children with each other? It's wild to me we're so mean to each other when we're that age 13 for like, oh my god, it's like there are very few circles in general society that are as just racist and like emotionally inept and we just kind of like it's scary, I don't know. I guess that's how you learn. You know you learn by doing it wrong and you kind of have to go through that you can't really protect them.

Ben 37:50

The psychological immune system develops through all of it and somehow, we, we learn to be like oh, that's not right how I was treating my parents, or how I was treating, you know, the black kids, or?

Scott 38:02

whatever Wind it back to. You know preschool and probably the same issues, right?

Ben 38:10

Yeah.

Scott 38:12

But you're less but it's easier to look at them as kids.

Ben 38:16

There's so much more innocence. Yeah, yeah, Totally. And it's yeah yeah, no. I guess you're right. You know you get to adulthood all the way back to preschool look that we took it all the way back to the beginning, just in time to end. Beautiful, maybe that fish will really be okay yeah, maybe it's uh growing Blessings upon that fish tank. Hope it serves the next family well.

Scott 38:51

All righty, all right.